Obama's Kenyan Birth Cert on eBay

[Can this be real? If so, will some patriotic American bid high enough to keep the Obamites from burying it? I edited two articles below for length.  If the graphics don't come through, you can use the links at the beginnings of the articles.]

For sale on eBay: Obama's 'Kenyan birth certificate'

Seller claims Mombasa document 'certified copy'

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Posted: June 27, 2009

12:40 am Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

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With dozens of lawsuits filed over access to Barack Obama's certified long-form birth certificate, many more lawyers working on his behalf to keep it secret, and the validity o f the U.S. Constitution hanging in the balance, guess where a "certified copy" of the original Mombasa "document" has been found?

On eBay.

Item No. 160344928067, at least as of today, is described as "a certified copy of President Barack Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate."

The seller, identified by the user name " colmado_naranja," states, "President Barack Hussein Obama II was born in The Coast Provincial Hospital at Mombasa in Kenya at 7:24 PM on August 4th, 1961."

eBay offer for Obama's Kenyan birth certificate

The suspicion that Coast Provincial is, in fact, Obama's birth hospital is not new, with the subject having been discussed on both Internet blogs and forums already.

But the seller, who according to the eBay rankings has completed dozens of transactions on the behemoth auction site without difficulties, said this is the real deal.

The seller, who did not respond to a WND request for an interview, said online he was traveling in Kenya and repeatedly heard stories that Obama actually was born in Kenya.

"Kenyans were amused at how gullible Americans could be when it came to obvious things like the fact that Kenyans overtly admit to Barack Jr's Kenyan birth, yet the Americans continue to believe that they know better," the seller writes.

"I delved further and found that a birth certificate was on file at The Coast Provincial General Hospital at Mombasa," said the seller, who claims the certificate is in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

"I know several American expats that reside in Kenya. I asked the three that I could reach if they were aware of President Barack Obama's Kenyan birth. All three said that they were most obviously aware of his Kenyan birth. I was shocked. They went to further say that they weren't much concerned with it, after all they'd left the U.S. to start a new life abroad and didn't have much interest in what was taking place in the States. Besides, they said, who would believe them anyway?

"Along with my Congolese brother Andylenny (brother in heart, not blood) and a 1993 BMW with only one working door I was off to Mombasa to get myself a copy (certified I hoped) of Barack Jr's birth certificate," the seller reported.

Actual details of how the "certificate" was obtained are not reported.

Search of eBay auction site for 'birth certificate' brought up this list

"I am not posting any photos of the birth certific ate here on eBay. I have not seen this birth certificate anywhere on the Internet, to post it here on eBay would lead to a flood of facsimiles on the Internet. This would inadvertently decrease the value of the certificate as well," the seller said.

WND has reported that among the documentation not yet available for Obama includes his kindergarten records, his Punahou school records, his Occidental College records, his Columbia University records, his Columbia thesis, his Harvard Law School records, his Harvard Law Review articles, his scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, his passport, his medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

The birth certificate seller is a self-proclaimed "collector of old Dominican and Cuban money" and has worked in the Congo.

"This spring I traveled through Kenya and its capital Nairobi. I was overwhelmed by the 'iconicized' face of U.S. President Barack Obama that displays itself throughout the country. I had lunch at a small eatery and noticed that the club sandwich with fried plantains was now known as 'Obama's Plate of the Day,'" the seller write s. "As an American I was bombarded with questions in English (English is national language of Kenya) on my feelings and opinions of a Kenyan governing the United States of America. The first several times I responded in saying that not enough time had elapsed since Barack Obama's appointment as president of the U.S.A., and that I'd have to hold my official opinion until at least January 2010, a year in office might be sufficient for me to judge his ability to govern the U.S.A.

"Naturally I thought that by 'Kenyan' they were referring to Barack Obama's blood, being that his father Barack Obama Sr. was a native of Kenya. After a day and a half of my being in Nairobi I learned that they were literally referring to President Barack Obama Jr. as being born in Kenya, a native of Kenya."

What's the difference?

Compare genuine 'long-form' Hawaiian birth certificate with Obama's online form

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Posted: June 18, 2009

9:48 pm Eastern

© 2009 WorldNetDaily
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Here is an actual Hawaiian birth certificate from 1963 (the same era as Obama's birth), which while redacted includes detailed information documenting a birth, including the name of the birth hospital and the attending physician.

Beneath it is the short-form "Certification of Live Birth" offered by President Obama as proof of his Hawaiian birth. Legally, it proves only his birthdate because it is possible to have been born outside of Hawaii and still obtain one.

Genuine Certificate:

Long-form birth certificate from state of Hawaii (Image courtesy Philip Berg)

Certification of Live Birth presented by Obama:

Short-form "Certification of Live Birth"

Bob Unruh is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com.

1 John 3:4-10 and the Perfect Christian

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 9:59 AM
To: [Poorhouse Dad]
Subject: 1 John 3:4-10

Hi,

Read these verses with attention to how it seems to be saying that if one is born of God, he does not sin.  I think I know what the real meaning is but would like your view.

Thanks, T.

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

This passage has bothered me, too.  Some people take it at face value, believing that they can reach or hav e reached sinless perfection.  In college, I watched an itinerant "holiness" preacher make a mockery of Christ's name and endanger his own safety as he challenged passing students for looking like druggies and prostitutes.  He rationalized his rude judgmentalism by claiming that he had not sinned since he "got saved."  I don't know whether this over confidence came from his misguided theology or from his pride, but it was an embarrassment.

We do receive imputed holiness from Christ, but He applies that through His grace, not through our deeds.  Ironically, as such people reach this state (or so they think), they fall into habitual commission of the sins of pride and of carrying around logs in their own eyes.

The standard interpretation of the passage holds that sin refers to habitual sin.  This seems inadequate to me because we all grow in holiness (called practical sanctification).  We gradually purify our walks, but sin continues during that process of purification, and nobody but our Lord ever accomplishes total purity.  Some of those sins stem from ignorance, but others stem from habit.  So I think the Spirit intended a bit deeper meaning.

According to verse 4, sin is the transgression of the law.  It needs no explanation to an evangelical believer that Mosaic ceremonial law is N/A to us.  We need not suffer guilt over ignoring a feast or omitting to perform a sacrifice commanded by the Law.  In this spiritual sense, those who have received Christ's redemption cannot sin.

We can expand this sense because James states a principle that the Law is one law with many points, like a chain with many links:  For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.  If the ceremonial law cannot condemn us, then the entire law has lost its power to condemn us.

Paul states in Colossians 2:14 that Christ blot[ted] out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.

The child of God has freedom from the entire Mosaic law:  For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God (Galatians 2:19); so if sin is the transgression of the law, the child of God cannot, legalistically, sin.

Another sense of sin hinges on our dual natures,20spirit and flesh.  Paul explains in Romans 7:23-25 that, although God plants in our minds the desire to do righteous deeds, we remain in corrupt bodies full of sinful desires:

I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members....  So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Paul's language implies, my being exists not in my body, but in my mind and my spirit.

Sometime our flesh drives our will so that when we yield control to the physical, we commit acts well-described as sin.  At the same time, in our core, we cringe to see what we are capable of.  In the promise of deliverance -- O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?  I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord -- Paul verifies this identification with the portion of us which survives death.  So in our flesh we sin, yet at the core of our spirit-born being, we would not.

John is consistent with Paul.  The regenerated mind does not concur with the sinful actions of the flesh.  Christ gave himself not only to take away our sins judicially, but also to remove them practically.  Without this deliverance, the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned (I Corinthians 2:14).  The desires of the flesh enslave the unsaved man, whereas Christ sets free the spirit of the saved man now and will set free even the corrupt flesh of the saved man in the resurrection.

Since the flesh -- as it is in this life -- has the condemnation of death and the promise of metamorphosis in the resurrection, Paul considers his flesh as though it were dead already -- as good as dead, as we would say.  Thus, he says in Galatians 2:20, I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.  Just as we live in the world, yet are not of the world, we are in the flesh, yet are not of the flesh.

The Law, the great schoolmaster that brought us to Christ, does not rule over us (Galatians 2:24), for Christ has paid forward the complete debt incurred by our violations of that law; and we cannot violate regulations that no longer have jurisdiction over us.  In the schoolmaster's place, we find a new Law that supercedes the old:  Imitate Christ, take on the Family attributes of freedom and holiness, love one another.  We obey this new law not like a man doing his taxes, but like a math whiz attacking a Sudoku puzzle.  This new law fulfills the old law, but instead of being our labor, it is the believer's quest.

One last point before I let this go.  It is clear from the context of the entire book of 1 John that 2:4-10 does not speak in absolutes concerning sinning.  Already, John has written, My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous…. (1 John 2:1)  John recognizes that a sinless walk does not come automatically; otherwise, why would he encourage it?  He also recognizes the practicality of a mechanism, Christ's advocacy, for when we do sin.  Mistakenly interpreting 2:4-10 in absolute terms, then, could cost the believer much peace.

That portion which forms our core being does not sin, for the Holy Spirit re-births us pure, holy, fit for God's presence.  We face a constant choice between walking in our unredeemed flesh and walking in our reborn spirit.  Paul therefore urges us, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh (Galatians 5:16).  In practice, as an overpowering force, sin does not reign forever in the life of a believer. 

If we do not progress in Christ, in our sanctification, and in love, we have reason to question the authenticity of our conversions; but if we find in ourselves that struggle against our sinful flesh that Paul had, we have one reason for reassurance.

Isolating passages such as 1 John 3:4-10 from the rest of the Bible lead to errors such as that of the itinerant preacher.  When we understand the duality of our being, we reach a more balanced interpretation and a more balanced life.

Dual Covenant Theology

• Reference: Jonathan Bernis. The Dangers of Dual Covenant Theology. Charismamag.com. Friday, 07 August 2009 10:31 AM EDT; downoaded 4:12 PM PDT. http://charismamag.com/index.php/newsletters/standing-with-israel/22858-the-dangers-of-dual-covenant-theology

Israel has no better friend than the evangelical Christian. The USA's loyalty to Israel stems not only from memory of the Holocaust, but also from the influence of the evangelical Christian. Roman Catholics have historically viewed Jews as the crucifiers of the Christ. Many mainline Protestants believe the Christian church has completely supplanted Israel, whose remaining values are as an object lesson and as a tourist destination. It is evangelical Christians who love the family through which came the prophets and the Savior; and it is evangelicals who treasure the prophesy that God will grant Israel repentance en masse, turning them again to their God's redemption through His incarnation and substitutionary sacrifice as the Son. As the generation that remembers the Holocaust dies off, it will be the evangelical Christian who keeps alive America's friendship.

"Dual covenant theology" promotes the idea that the Abrahamic or Mosaic covenants created a path to heaven for Jewish people. Jews, it says, have salvation, without needing faith in their Messiah.

This theology teaches a compromise between the exclusive claim of Christ, that "no man comes unto the Father but by me," and universalism, the idea that God accepts all sincere practitioners of conscience, regardless of whether they accept God. Dual covenanters believe Judaism holds validity equal to that of Christianity. Christians, therefore, need not explain to Jews the fulfillment of their faith, but rather should hold full communion with practicing Jews as though Judaism just formed another Christian denomination.

This split position results from the pressures of secularism, universalism, and guilt.

Secularism rejects all religions in favor of naturalism, but grants religions validity to the degree that they bind and lubricate societies. With all religions having equal validity, it becomes unethical, "wrong," to make followers of any of those religions feel rejected by criticizing their beliefs. Christians feel the pressure to accept this secular dogma at every turn of public life, from the televised sitcom to the public school to the workplace. Those with weak or immature, undefined faith are susceptable to such influences.

Universalism stems from the secularism that dominates among mainline theologians. The academic class looks down from its lofty intellectual clouds and sets the weak and artificial faith of the theologian as the standard. Again, anemic faith in one's own religion leads to accepting the tenates of secularism and tolerance of beliefs such as pantheism that diametrically oppose Biblical teachings. Believing themselves to have transcended the plain teachings of the Bible and accepting universal salvation, many theologians and their followers feel enlightened and respected. Hearing the praise of secular academics, they pat themselves on the back for having "reached out" through compromising their beliefs.

While Judaism pointed forward to the coming Messiah, it was a correct faith. Those Jews who failed to recognize the fulfillment (not all did) became an obsolete cult as history left them behind. As the Catholic hierarchy blended with Rome's secular hierarchy, sects considered unorthodox, including Judaism, met the power of empirial force. Thus, Roman Catholic oppression formed a continuum that ended with the "Christian" (which was actually occultic), German, National Socialist regime conducting the Holocaust. (Admittedly, not all clergy cooperated with the NAZIs; an isolated few did harbor Jews and other "undesirables.") After the liberation of Hitler's death camps, "Holocaust guilt" drove the sentiments of many marginal Christians. The Jews, their leaders reasoned, had suffered enough and should not be further "persecuted" by those who would try to convince them to submit to their Messiah. Finding a reason such as dual covenant theology thus excused weak-faithed leaders from the responsibility to preach the gospel to every creature.

(From here on, I quote extensively from Bernis.)

But the Bible declares that the gospel is for the Jew 'first' (Rom. 1:16, NKJV). There is only one plan of salvation for all people.

To the Jews first came the covenants. To the Jews first came the prophets. To the Jews first came the Law. To the Jews first came the Savior. To the Jews first came the gospel and the blessings of the Holy Spirit. And now, you want to excuse them from responding?

Jesus Himself said in John 14:6: "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

The apostle Peter, a Jew, conveyed this to the Jerusalem Sanhedrin (the Jewish ruling body), saying, "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, wherey we must be saved." (Acts 4:12) God may grant intervention that leads to repentance for the descendants of Abraham, but their salvation still follows the same conditions that apply to everybody else. Heaven does not grant anyone a free pass like some racist, social justice, affirmative action program.

Bernis says,

I recently heard one prominent leader (who I otherwise greatly respect) say, "Jews do not come to Christ through proclamation, but through revelation."

Bernis tries to explain that "this leader feels it is God's job to reveal Himself to Jewish people despite Christ's command" that all men, starting with the Jews, should be made disciples of Christ through the proclamation of the gospel. (Matthew 28:19, Luke 24:47)

Although his point of view is not exactly dual covenant theology, the result is the same-there is no need to share our faith with Jewish people.

But the Bible tells us that proclamation of the gospel is a prerequisite to faith:

"How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? ... So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (Rom. 10:14-17).

These verses are talking about the restoration of the Jewish people.

During our years of outreach to the former Soviet Union, I have seen thousands of Jewish people pray to receive Yeshua as their Messiah. It has been in response to the proclamation of the gospel, just as Paul said.

All would be better served -- not to mention more faithful to the Great Commission -- if Christian Zionist leaders would simply be honest in their relationships with Jewish leaders. Instead of saying they are against evangelizing Jewish people, they should say: "I'm an evangelical Christian, compelled to share the gospel with all people. That means I can't exclude you. I will share my faith openly, because that is what God calls me to do. But also know that my love for you and support of Israel is unconditional."

I assure you, Jewish leaders would respect and accept this position, and we all would be the better for it.

I pray that Christian Zionism will continue to flourish. Israel needs our support now more than ever. Anti-Semitism is on the rise worldwide, and Hezbollah, Iran and Syria are not going away. They hate Israel and want to see the tiny nation pushed into the sea.

The rise to power of fatherless American presidents with no memory of the Holocaust and raised in an age of secular humanism-dominated schools dramatically threatens our friendship with Israel.

We need friends, but not at the expense of withholding the gospel from our people. After all, there is no greater blessing you can give a Jewish person than eternal life through a relationship with their Messiah. His name is Yeshua.

Jonathan Bernis, a Jewish believer in Yeshua (Jesus), is founder of Hear O Israel Ministries, an organization doing extensive outreach and humanitarian aid around the world. He is also executive director of Phoenix-based Jewish Voice Ministries International. He founded two Messianic congregations and served them as a senior Messianic rabbi for 11 years.

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